Paul Carrack – How Long ( live 2004 )
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Paul Carrack – How Long
Paul Carrack at Smooth Radio studios performing an acoustic version of ‘How Long’.
How fast could a cargo ship travel in 16th the century? Specifically, I’m wondering how long a ship of that time period would take to get from Greece to Denmark
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Several factors come into play when determining that. An empty cargo ship with full sail in the Spring could make it that distance in one to two weeks.Factors that come into play: Season or weather, type of cargo, size of vessel, type of vessel, age of vessel, number of sails, number of crew, docking stops in between, the experience of the crew, experience of the captain, etc.
A Carrack of the day would have made the trip in roughly 2 to 3 weeks. This would depend on season and storms
Actually, this is not much different than today. Advances in this area were due to:1) Better routes: Going from Greece to Denmark did not leave much room for better routes.2) Better engines: Sail Boats have more power than most power boats, but cannot provide the same push speed. In general, the real problem in the 16th century was not related to the power available, but rather to the friction of the hull.3) The ability to sail into the wind. The trip from Greece to the Atlantic would be into the wind most of the time, and would cause an increase in sailing time in order to tack back and forth. This would about double the distance they needed to sail.4) The LWL (length along the water) hull length: The friction of the hull, and thus the power requirements depended on the maximum hull speed. This is the natural speed of an ocean wave the same length as the hull. As the speed of the boat nears its maximum hull speed, the friction increases exponentially. This is still a problem, but we normally use longer hulls today, which naturally have higher hull speeds.The formula for the maximum hull speed (which can be overcome with enough power, or “skimming across top top”) is:Maximum Speed in Knotts = 2.3 * sqrt(lenght in feet along the water)Normally, the friction is such that the realized speed will be 70% of hull speed with a good wind.Thus, if you chose a 100 foot merchant ship, the speed would be about 8 knotts in the Mediterrainian, and 16 knotts in the open ocean for ideal conditions. Due to the lack of ideal conditions, the 8 knotts would usually be 6 knotts, and the 16 knotts would usually be 12 knotts.Bad waves, calm days, ripped sails, etc. dropps the actual progress to about 75% of the ideal.As you get above 100 feet for sailing vessels, you do get more speed, but having wind fast enough every day is less likely to happen. You normally do not get to go 12 knotts down wind with only a 10 knott wind. Try going 16 knotts, and it is even more difficult.So measure the distances the ship travels, take into account ocean currents, and winds, and port stops. You can get a fairly good estimate.
Would a 50 ton two mast caravel outrun a 150 ton four mast carrack? I’m kind of puzzled. Instinctively I would say the smaller ship would go faster, but the larger ship is more advanced and has twice as many sails so my doubt increases.What kind of wind would the smaller ship need to outrun the larger? Would the smaller ship have the advantage in no wind, or lots of wind?
principles of physics are not equate to vessels which are afloat where you would assume e=mc2 due to the lack of friction on dry land with wheels and bearings producing friction.hull design could produce a greater or much lesser resistance beyond any speculation..
many other factors being equal, the maximum speed of a boat or ship is the square root of the length of the waterline times a constant; as hulls get more efficient that constant goes up.so a 50 ton sloop today would be WAY faster than a50 ton caravel of back when.Now, back when, the 150 tonner would be faster than the smaller ship.longer LWL, more sail area, able to set a better combination of sails on different masts yada yadathe situation where the caravel would be faster : if the caravel has a lanteen rig ( instead of square sail.I believe that was the Pinta’s rig but not 100% on that) then she would point higher into the wind and could outsail a square rig to windward, and would probably have greater acceleration and handling in very light and fluky conditions as you would find in the Med.which is the reason the Arab Barbarry pirates kept a 2 masted lanteen rig on their ships right up to the 1820’s
Navy question What is the difference between a frigate and a crusier? I am watching “The Great ships” frigatesand it sounds like the two terms would be interchangeable.I know the terms are used with modern ships. What is the difference.
Usually the size and the purpose. The period of time sometimes distinguishes the name. Modern navy combat ships are generally divided into seven main categories. The categories are: Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Frigates, Submarines, and Amphibious assault ships. There are also support and auxiliary ships, including the minesweeper, patrol boat, and tender. During the age of sail, the ship categories were divided into the ship of the line, frigate, and sloop-of-war. Frigate is a name which has been used for several distinct types of warships at different times. It has referred to a variety of ship roles and sizes. From the 18th century, it referred to a ship smaller and faster than a ship-of-the-line, used for patrolling and escort work rather than fighting fleet actions. In modern military terminology, the definition of a frigate is a warship intended to protect other warships and merchant marine ships and as anti-submarine warfare (ASW) combatants for amphibious expeditionary forces, underway replenishment groups, and merchant convoys. A corvette is a small, maneuverable, lightly armed warship, smaller than a frigate but larger than a coastal patrol craft. In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast and maneuverable yet long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet or battle group and defend them against smaller, short-range attackers (originally torpedo boats, later submarines and aircraft). A cruiser (From Dutch Kruiser, “something that crosses”) is a classification of large warship. Historically they were generally considered the smallest ships capable of independent operations — destroyers usually requiring outside support such as tenders — but in modern parlance this difference has disappeared. In modern warfare the cruiser has virtually disappeared, supplanted in all roles by the destroyer. In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast and maneuverable yet long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet or battle group and defend them against smaller, short-range attackers (originally torpedo boats, later submarines and aircraft). At the beginning of the 21st century, destroyers are the heaviest surface combatant vessels in general use, with only four nations (the United States, Russia, France and Peru) operating cruisers and none operating battleships. Modern destroyers are equivalent in tonnage but drastically superior in firepower to cruisers of the World War II era, capable of carrying nuclear missiles able to destroy cities in a very small volley. Battleship was the name given to the most powerfully gun-armed and most heavily armored classes of warships built between the 15th and 20th centuries. Battleships evolved from northern European cogs, and included carracks and galleons in the 16th Century, ships of the line in the 17th and 18th centuries, broadside ironclads and Pre-Dreadnoughts in the 19th century, and Dreadnoughts in the 20th Century. For over 300 years battleships ruled the waves, allowing nations such as Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, France and the United Kingdom to create and maintain trade-based overseas empires and restrain their rivals. During World War II (1939-45) they were superseded as the deciding factor at sea by aircraft carriers.
Frigates are mostly patrol & escort ships for ASW duty. The Cruiser is larger, tasked with Anti Air & Anti ship warfare. They are also tasked with Ballistic missile Defense.
I don’t know if you’re talking about sailing frigates or modern ones, since I am in the Navy now, I can speak to the modern type. Frigates are smaller ships with light weaponry. Their primary roles are anti-piracy and anti-submarine warfare. Cruisers are the largest surface ships other than amphibious assault ships and carriers. They are capable of anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine, and they carry Tomahawk missiles which are capable of long range strike warfare. They also have a larger crew than frigates and are capable of independent steaming, meaning that they are capable of sailing by themselves without the support of a battle group.