Billy Idol – Catch My Fall (Remix Fix)
Punk Rock & New Wave, off of 24-Bit Digitally Remastered 01, Vital Idol (1985)
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Billy Idol – Catch My Fall (Original Demo)
Billy Idol – Catch My Fall Original Demo from the Billy Idol Rebel Yell extended Edition. enjoy!
Who’s your idol? Click here!? mine is Sarah Dessen or my older sister.They have shown me that life isn’t always easy, but people you love are always around to catch you when you fall=]
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I have always idolized U.S. SOLDIERS, and now I am one.It has made me everything I have ever became. Before, and during. Good and bad.
Mine is Raj FahneenBecause He Likes to SUper size his meat lovers Bowl winder in a cup.
Would someone answer a question about the translation of a passage in Job? So, a couple of hours ago, I read a question about “foreknowledge in the Bible” in which the poster quotes a passage from Job to contend it refers to something that proves true in modern astronomy. The Hebrew text is:???????????, ??????????? ???????; ???-????????? ??????? ??????????If you’re looking at that and saying “I don’t speak Hebrew, what does it mean in English”, I can give you several translations of the verse (Job 38: 31).The original poster’s translation is “can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, or loose the belt of Orion?”The NIV says “can you bind the beautiful Pleiades? Can you loose the cords of Orion?The KJV reads “canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion”In The Message, the verse is “can you catch the eye of the beautiful Pleiades sisters, or distract Orion from his hunt?”And the Contemporary English version reads “can you arrange stars in groups such as Orion and the Pleiades?”Then again, Young’s Literal Translation is “Dost thou bind sweet influences of Kimah? Or the attractions of Kesil dost thou open?”If you start looking into it, you’ll discover the two words from Young’s Literal Translation– Kimah and Kesil– are correct, and as you can see, most people translate them to mean the same thing. However, Kimah has been variously used to refer to the Pleiades, Sirius, or Arcturus. Kesil may mean Orion, it may mean “fool”, or it could refer to a town by that name, located in ancient Judea, which fell into idol worship. The original poster takes the verse referenced above, and notes the Pleiades are a tightly bound group of stars, while Orion isn’t. Technically the second part is mostly true. The Pleiades is a much tighter grouping of stars than Orion is, though eventually both will be pulled apart by outside gravitational forces.From this, he concludes the verse is referring to how gravity affects both groups of stars, and that it correctly states the Pleiades group is much more tightly bound than Orion is.Here’s my question.Is the verse from Job specific enough to logically conclude it contains specific facts about astronomy which are true, or is the verse vague enough that you can re-interpret it to “be true” no matter what the facts turn out to be?Is it a matter of seeing something that’s actually there, or seeing what you want to see in the verse?
I have no idea why you are asking this question. God is just reminding Job of his great power. As far as I know the Orion and Pleiades are real, thus God saying he is so powerful he can control them – so who are we to think we are better than him? That is it my friend.
From Barnes notesJob 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades? – The seven stars. On the meaning of the word used here (ëéîä ki?yma?h), see the notes at Job_9:9. In regard to the meaning of the word rendered “sweet influences,” there has been considerable variety of interpretation. The Septuagint renders it, “Dost thou understand the band (??????? desmon) of Pleiades?” The Hebrew word (îòãðä ma?a?danna?h) is naturally derived from a word signifying “pleasures,” or “delights” (îòãï ma?a?dan, from òãï ?a?dan, “to be soft, or pliant; to enjoy pleasure or delight”; hence, the word “Eden”), and then it would mean, as in our translation, the delightful influences of the Pleiades; or the influences supposed to be produced by this constellation in imparting happiness, particularly the pleasures enjoyed in the spring time, when that constellation makes its appearance. But Gesenius supposes that the word is derived from òðã ?a?nad, “to bind,” and that it is used by transposition for îòðãåú ma??nado?th.It would then refer to the “bands of Pleiades,” and the question would be whether Job had created the band which united the stars composing that constellation in so close union; whether he.Or loose the bands of Orion – In regard to this constellation, see the notes at Job_9:9. The word bands here has been supposed to refer to the girdle with which it is usually represented. Orion is here described as a man girded for action, and is the pioneer of winter. It made its appearance early in the winter, and was regarded as the precursor of storms and tempests; see the quotations in the notes at Job_9:9. Thus appearing in the autumn, this constellation seems to lead on the winter. It comes with strength. It spreads its influence over the air, the earth, the waters, and binds everything at its pleasure. God here asks Job whether he had power to disarm this giant; to unloose his girdle; to divest him of strength; to control the seasons? Had he power over summer and winter, so as to cause them to go or come at his bidding, and to control all those laws which produced them?
its seeing something that is actually there.Its talking about a group of stars called Pleiades and OrionGod ask Do you have the power Job to bind them together?Can you loosen the bands of Orion?
how well have you read geneses ? it tells that the whales were above the firmament . this puts the whales in space . ” and god caused a great wind and a stillness. ” people take the story’s as just story’s or they claim it to be true . but few have actually read it as it is . the Ark didn’t only float on water it floated in 0 gravity. and many other parts tell of people from space or the deep or the heavens . myself i don’t think that the lands in Geneses are on this planet . nations like Africa middle east and even the native Indians from this continent all claim that the beginning of creation is there . but none of those places come close . the only place that does come close is the arctic . and the land was watered up from a mist . this tells of a great geyser .the only one is here ” old faithful ” notice the buildings around it . then take a look at Herods temples. then notice the twin towers and the 2 towers mentioned in the bible . even the tower of babel is being built . there are many more in new york . this is not a fable . the temples are here . rebuilt . but this is not the land of Eden . it was blocked . all storys tell this . man can not return to Eden . it is blocked by a spinning sword of fire . does that sound like anything on earth you know of .
No, I think that you are taking this verse out of context and trying to interpret what might be there in a different context,The Septuagint reads this:Job 38:31 “And dost thou understand the band of Pleias, and hast thou opened the barrier of Orion?”The context is clear from this and the surrounding verses that God is talking to Job, and impressing upon Job how little Job is, compared to how great God, the Creator of this universe, is. The phrases used may or may not be astrologically accurate, or they may simply be phrases well understood at that time whose meanings have since become extinct. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that we understand the train of thought, the context, the idea that God is presenting here, in these verses.
The whole section of Job from Ch. 38 to the end is very difficult to interpret. It is God talking to Job about the things He has done and asking Job what he really knows about any of it. It was mainly meant to show Job that he is not as wise as he thinks. He starts out the chapter by asking “Who darkeneth council with words without knowledge?” This is God talking about His own awesome power to create and it is naturally going to be a difficult read. Personally, it is one of my favorite sections in the Bible, but I still don’t understand much of it. I can tell you this: as with every section of the Bible, it has more than one meaning. On the surface, it is directly talking about the stars and it displays the ancient peoples’ knowledge of astronomy. In deeper levels it could mean any number of things. Is it specific or vague? Yes, to both. Are we seeing what we want to see, or what is actually there? Yes, to both.
The entire section is God explaining how little Job knows about how the universe works and how feeble his powers, compared to God. (It contains some of the finest poetry in the OT, IMO.)The Stone translation has: “Did you tie up the bonds of Pleiades, or unbind the cords of Orion?”Now as a matter of astronomy, the Pleiades are a genuine cluster – but the stars in the constellation of Orion are not close together at all – like all constellations. The ancients, observing the Pleiades, thought they were a cluster and were right, but seeing stars in constellations (consider the etymology of the word!) wrongly thought they were close to each other. (If you consider the ancient view of the heavens as largely fixed – hence the term “firmament” in KJV’s translation of Gen 1 – they, seeing stars apparently close together, would think they actually were near.) So I don’t think that a correct astronomical observation has that much significance.